Comments on: OpenId http://www.programmersparadox.com/2008/04/22/openid/ Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:42:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Luke Hoersten http://www.programmersparadox.com/2008/04/22/openid/comment-page-1/#comment-325 Luke Hoersten Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:49:53 +0000 http://www.programmersparadox.com/?p=96#comment-325 Yeah good point. I thought just the metadata linking in the page (the process I posted) was also very hard to find and figure out, even though it's easy once you see how it's supposed to be. They definitely don't seem to be trying for usability, do they? Yeah good point. I thought just the metadata linking in the page (the process I posted) was also very hard to find and figure out, even though it’s easy once you see how it’s supposed to be. They definitely don’t seem to be trying for usability, do they?

]]> By: Mark http://www.programmersparadox.com/2008/04/22/openid/comment-page-1/#comment-324 Mark Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:47:20 +0000 http://www.programmersparadox.com/?p=96#comment-324 I'm not sure exactly what I was expecting. Certainly not anything different than what I found. While I'm not planning at the current time to use my domain to link to a bunch of openid accounts, I still thought it would be cool to set it up so that my openid pointed to my domain. For a single account it might have been easier just to link to myOpenID or some other provider. Certainly that is what users will have to do if they can't modify their DNS. My biggest complaint isn't with the end result or that I even potentially set up more than I needed. It is that myOpenID does not make the process clear. Point 2 in the email from Mike Glover is: your signin on myopenid.com is the same as your identifier. Nowhere did I see that on the myOpenID site, so I fumbled in the dark until I figured it out on my own. It's the small things like that that myOpenID needs to fix. Once they do that, it should be a great service. I just thought I'd point out what I saw as the faults now so that maybe myOpenID will read them and get better and so that others who want to try the process can learn from what I went through. I’m not sure exactly what I was expecting. Certainly not anything different than what I found. While I’m not planning at the current time to use my domain to link to a bunch of openid accounts, I still thought it would be cool to set it up so that my openid pointed to my domain. For a single account it might have been easier just to link to myOpenID or some other provider. Certainly that is what users will have to do if they can’t modify their DNS.

My biggest complaint isn’t with the end result or that I even potentially set up more than I needed. It is that myOpenID does not make the process clear. Point 2 in the email from Mike Glover is: your signin on myopenid.com is the same as your identifier. Nowhere did I see that on the myOpenID site, so I fumbled in the dark until I figured it out on my own. It’s the small things like that that myOpenID needs to fix.

Once they do that, it should be a great service. I just thought I’d point out what I saw as the faults now so that maybe myOpenID will read them and get better and so that others who want to try the process can learn from what I went through.

]]> By: Luke Hoersten http://www.programmersparadox.com/2008/04/22/openid/comment-page-1/#comment-320 Luke Hoersten Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:31:02 +0000 http://www.programmersparadox.com/?p=96#comment-320 I think you are using the wrong feature for the job for your domain. What you've set up is the equivalent to Google Apps and a domain. A way to give all the users of your domain an OpenID. In that sense, myOpenID's acted exactly as I'd expect (and the way Google Apps works). myOpenID, in your defense, does <em>not</em> make this clear at all! I emailed them when they first released this because I felt like they were misleading users into this more complex setup. Here's an email explanation from Mike Glover, myOpenID support: <blockquote>"myOpenID for Domains is intended for small or medium-sized groups of people that want an easy way to set up branded OpenIDs for their entire group. It has two advantages over adding openid.server to your metadata: 1. Easier setup, especially if you're setting up a lot of accounts 2. Your signin on myopenid.com is the same as your identifier For just setting up one or two accounts on your domain, it's probably more trouble than it's worth. We'll be adding some more information to the site about choosing the best method to use your domain with OpenID soon."</blockquote> I wrote a guide a while ago to better explain how I set up all my stuff. I use Google Apps for most of it. To be more canonical, the way you've set it up is better anyway. <a href="http://humani.st/unified-web-persona-custom-openid-g-talk-urls/" rel="nofollow">Unified Web Persona: Custom OpenID & G-Talk URLs</a> Let me know if this fits more with what you were initially expecting. -Luke I think you are using the wrong feature for the job for your domain. What you’ve set up is the equivalent to Google Apps and a domain. A way to give all the users of your domain an OpenID. In that sense, myOpenID’s acted exactly as I’d expect (and the way Google Apps works).

myOpenID, in your defense, does not make this clear at all! I emailed them when they first released this because I felt like they were misleading users into this more complex setup. Here’s an email explanation from Mike Glover, myOpenID support:

“myOpenID for Domains is intended for small or medium-sized groups of people that want an easy way to set up branded OpenIDs for their entire group. It has two advantages over adding openid.server to your metadata:

1. Easier setup, especially if you’re setting up a lot of accounts
2. Your signin on myopenid.com is the same as your identifier

For just setting up one or two accounts on your domain, it’s probably more trouble than it’s worth. We’ll be adding some more information to the site about choosing the best method to use your domain with OpenID soon.”

I wrote a guide a while ago to better explain how I set up all my stuff. I use Google Apps for most of it. To be more canonical, the way you’ve set it up is better anyway.

Unified Web Persona: Custom OpenID & G-Talk URLs

Let me know if this fits more with what you were initially expecting.

-Luke

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